Hats off once again to the gang over at ScienceDaily.com for blowing the lid off of this story.
Babies May Not Have a ‘Moral Compass’ After All
New research from New Zealand’s University of Otago is casting doubt on a landmark US study that suggested infants as young as six months old possess an innate moral compass that allows them to evaluate individuals as ‘good’ or ‘bad.’
The 2007 study by Yale University researchers provided the first evidence that 6- and 10-month-old infants could assess individuals based on their behaviour towards others, showing a preference for those who helped rather than hindered another individual.
Based on a series of experiments, researchers in the Department of Psychology at Otago have shown that the earlier findings may simply be the result of infants’ preferences for interesting and attention grabbing events, rather than an ability to evaluate individuals based on their social interactions with others.
The Otago study was recently published in PLoS One, an international, peer-reviewed, open-access, online journal.
In the original Yale experiment, infants watched a wooden toy (i.e., the “climber”) attempt to climb a hill. They viewed two social interactions; one in which a “helper” toy nudged the climber up the hill, and another in which a “hinderer” toy nudged the climber down the hill.
After viewing these two scenarios, the infants were presented with a tray; on one side of the tray was the helper and on the other side was the hinderer. Amazingly, the majority of infants picked the helper over the hinderer. To further elucidate infants’ moral reasoning abilities, a “neutral” toy (i.e., a toy that neither helped nor hindered) was pitted against the helper or hinderer. When the neutral character was paired with the helper, the infants preferred the helper; when paired with the hinderer, they preferred the neutral character.
The paper concluded that the experiments show that infants can evaluate individuals based on how they interact with another individual, and that their ability to do this is ‘universal and unlearned’.
Lead Otago author Dr Damian Scarf says that the Yale study caused an international sensation when it was published in the leading journal Nature.
After reviewing videos of the Yale experiments, the Otago researchers noticed that two obvious perceptual events could be driving infants’ choices.
“On the help and hinder trials, the toys collided with one another, an event we thought infants may not like. Furthermore, only on the help trials, the climber bounced up and down at the top of hill, an event we thought infants may enjoy.”
The researchers carried out a series experiments to test these assumptions and, by manipulating the collision and bouncing events, were able to show that these perceptual events were driving infants’ choices of the helper over the hinderer, Dr Scarf says.
In other words, the infants couldn’t care less who was helping and who was hindering. They chose the one who was bouncing around more because it amused them.
“For example,” continues Dr Scarf, “when we had the climber bounce at the bottom of the hill, but not at the top of the hill, infants preferred the hinderer, that is, the one that pushed the climber down the hill. If the social evaluation hypothesis was correct, we should have seen a clear preference for the helper, irrespective of the location of the bounce, because the helper always helped the climber achieve its goal of reaching the top of the hill.”
So there you have it, boys and girls.
A generation of cold, heartless infants. They will be the ones who will eventually choose the nursing homes in which we end up.
Better start bouncing around now, folks!
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how did you EVER FIND OUT!
You keep snooping around those science sites and you’re bound to come up with a thing or two!
Very, very interesting post
Thank you for your comment.
You’re welcome. I laughed when insaw the picture of the baby that apparently has no conscience lol
We have to keep an eye on that kid. I bet he’s texting about us right now!!
Fascinating. I love my grandchildren anyway!
And well you should, gram! Thanks for the comment.
Hah! It seems to me that babies aren’t the only ones who choose pizazz and showmanship (bounce) over right and wrong. Just taking a look at some of the morally bankrupt celebrities and captains of industry we have throw on pedestals in the past makes one wonder if perhaps some of us ever develop a moral compass. Great post. Followed!
We are in for interesting times!
All completely objective research, of course, With no bias from the researcher. At All.
Of course. Scientists would never skew results one way or the other!
We as adults seem to prefer the ones who are bouncing around, whether they’re the good guys or not. How else can we explain America’s fascination with reality TV shows?
Or politicians? Thanks for the observation and comment. We have to keep our eyes on this next generation, for sure!
I enjoyed this counselor!
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I should have known! those darn science sites
Yeah. With all their ‘facts’ and ‘research’ and ‘peer reviewed articles!’ Like they know better than us or something.
Haha! What an interesting post! Love the pictures and the captions
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So that’s why so many Grandma’s wear shiny, bedazzled sweaters – they appear to have more movement! Judging by the comments, politicians should try that, too! Omigodwereallyarezombies!
Like many primitive forms of life, babies appear to be mollified by shiny and/or bouncy objects. Grandparents seem to have clued-in to this long ago!
And I agree with you about the politicians. WAY too conservative with the clothing, boys. Get with it. Razzle-dazzle us!
As a kid, I want to do an evil laugh….
Too bad I’m 12 years past my baby stage.
And my evil laugh sounds like a dying goat.
Don’t give up. Keep working on it! Everyone should get in touch with his or her inner maniacal laughter!
This is an interesting article but there is a query I’d like to throw into discussion.
Why are scientists testing infants for innate morality when morality is a learned quality taught by authority figures such as parents or guardians, teachers and honourable members of society such the police force and medical professionals?
There are few biological factors that affect our conscious decision-making, such as brain trauma, chemical inbalances and psychological disorders such as bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, but there is little evidence to suggest that morality can be inherited.
Also, babies would not really need to use any sense of morality as they are more concerned with surviving and making sure that their needs are met. As thoughtful as it is to let mum and dad sleep, if the baby needs feeding during the middle of the night, I doubt it will think twice about crying. After all, the baby is reliant on the primary caregivers to live.
I think to a large extent you’ve provided the reasons in your comment. The scientists, both at Yale and Otago, wanted to see if perceiving something as morally good or bad was innate… a built in moral compass regardless of later imprinting by adults… or whether morality was strictly something taught or acquired later in life.
The Yale studies suggest that there is a moral compass because the infants ‘chose’ the helper toys over the hinderer or neutral toys. The Otago studies suggest that Yale got a ‘false positive’ and that the infants were not really displaying a moral compass to either the helper or hinderer toy but rather showing an attraction to the toys’ motion that the infants found interesting, regardless if the toy helped or hindered.
Thanks so much for your comments and insights! Wonderful!!
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Please take this as a compliment, even though it may not sound quite like one… the ending is the best part!!! I love that!!! “start bouncing around…” Very interesting blog. =0) Congrats on being “freshly pressed”. =0)
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Interesting! I always wondered about this but am glad to have the evidence to support my suspicions.
Enjoy FP!
Knowledge is ammunition. Forewarned is forearmed. Batten down the hatches. Shiver me timbers. Never cross the street if you can’t get out of the kitchen.
OK… that’s enough. The important thing to remember is that babies are heartless little demons.
Thanks for sharing that fascinating research. It made me imagine one group of scientists all patting each other on the back and nodding and then another group watching the videos of their research and laughing their heads off and pointing, before devising an evil scheme to prove them….stupid.
That’s exactly what I thought!! The Yale people reviewed their research and tried to rebut the criticism but Otago merely rebutted the rebuttal.
I love when scientists butt heads, don’t you?
Cutting edge science.
Great post.
Thanks for your kind comment.
I am STILL looking for my moral compass. I just KNOW it’s around here somewhere.
I’m trying to learn how to do a paradigm shift without a clutch!
I see babies from the hold their head up stage to the scream bloody murder stage in all sort of places from shopping to church. Without fail they respond positively to a smile on a goofy face and sugar. I always provide the former and assume that with enough of the latter we can ruin any moral compass they may have had.
Smartly done, Mike. Practical and effective.
This was a really interesting post
and kinda cute in a weird way but yes, interesting
Cute in a weird way. Kinda like me, I guess. Thanks! Glad you liked it.
I’m okay with there being little tiny bad guys out there. Everyone’s got a bad streak, but not every toddler’s a Hitler. Nor is any single child an angel
No one is saying the kids are bad. OK, well… I did. But… the point of all the studies is to find out if we’re born with a sense of morality, of ethics. Are we born with an inclination at a very early age of what is good and bad, right and wrong? Yale says yes. New Zealand says if we are… the Yale studies don’t conclusively prove it.
As for Evil, well… I work with Evil on a regular basis. I sit across bulletproof glass from Evil and look into its eyes. Most lousy, creepy people we run into in our lives aren’t Evil… they don’t even come close.
Great post, thanks for this. I am about to become a dad for the first time at the end of the year to twins…. Will be interesting to see how they turn out
You’ll have to keep us posted!
Nice post! Really interesting. In a way, it makes sense they don’t have a moral compass; the moral wrong is learned through parents and society.
This is what the New Zealand studies conclude. If infants do have a moral compass, the Yale studies fail to prove it. Thanks for the comment!
Love this! It all makes sense now!!!
Glad you liked it. And thank you for your kind words.
Oh I just knew there was something wrong with the drool set. Don’t they always give you that innocent look that screams they’re up to no good? I have always said if kids ever became an atomic power we’d all be in world of trouble..
And their eyes are disproportionately large! Why do they need such big eyes?? What are they up to??
It’s true! It’s like Big Brother is watching you except they’re the size of a bread box.. And just what are they hiding under those bibs anyway? (The ones they smear with obnoxious patterns of Gerbers so you wouldn’t want to remove them to find out.) Microphones or concealed weapons, I’ll bet.
And before we know it, they will be our evil overlords, ruling with an iron pacifier!!
Do you suppose they might be immobilized into a stupor if we amassed a large quantity of fluffy bunny and kitty mobiles to spin over their heads? It seems to be their Kryptonite?
We live in hope.
Congratulations. Really interesting article.
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I had to laugh when I saw the baby with the cell phone. No doubt he’s plotting the downfall of the world and eats the powerhouse food of Cheerios to keep up his strength.
Congrats on being Freshly Pressed.
I was thinking the same thing, the treacherous little tot!
Thanks for your comments!
Hilarious!! Too bad they’re too cute to not like!
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It’s their self-defence mechanism, darn them!
The pic of the baby girl being a future socio-path… EPIC!
Rock on NZ Uni of Otago!!!
LOL I love how we even need experiments performed by top notch universities to figure this out. Weren’t we once babies? Granted, we didn’t know what was even going on, but I seem to have a vague recollection of doing something similar to this.
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But still, nice finding! Congrats on making the Freshly Pressed!
That photo and the one of the kid on the phone were found by me. The caption under the photos are mine. Thanks for your comments and kind words.
Haha, this article is so cute!
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
This was hilarious even the comments! And the captions under those adorable kids
Who cares about their moral compass when they have us wrapped around their little fingers dancing to their every tune? Now, would you call that morally correct, to make us do that?
Re Photos: The first photo of the child in the colourful plastic bubbles, that was provided by the gang at ScienceDaily.com. I found the other photos of the other children through a Google Images search. And the captions under those two photos are mine.
Even if babies aren’t born without a conscience, parents give them good reasons to become psychopaths. Teaching young children traditional sexual “inhibition” is a form of permanent mental castartion. By not allowing childhood masturbation and sex play, the relative parts of the brain that process sensory input from the sexual organs atrophy. http://sexhysteria.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/clitoral-erectile-dysfunction/
Thanks for your insightful comments! Well said.
Quite informative. Thank you for sharing!
And thank you for your comment!
nice..
Thank you!
I would argue that parents have known (or should have known!) this all along. My mom has stories about my older sister manipulating when she was just a few days old! Thanks for posting about this though, I’d seen the original study, but never heard this follow-up.
The back and forth between Yale and Otago on this is quite entertaining as well as informative.
Interesting study. I teach moral development in infants so I’ll be sure to look it up, do you have the journal reference
Journal Reference:
1. Damian Scarf, Kana Imuta, Michael Colombo, Harlene Hayne. Social Evaluation or Simple Association? Simple Associations May Explain Moral Reasoning in Infants. PLoS ONE, 2012; 7 (8): e42698 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0042698
Hope this helps! I look forward to hearing your insights.
They say it’s like stealing candy from a baby, but who knows when a baby will steal candy from you?
Just don’t turn on back on them. Better safe than sorry!
I have always believed in Original Sin, being Catholic and all. Humans must be taught the difference between right and wrong so of course babies have no moral compass. Humans naturally do what feels good, lends itself to survival, is pleasant, etc. Isn’t amazing what we study, that I often think is just common sense?!
Congrats on the FP!
Thanks for your comments and kind words. These days, when confronted by a baby or worse, a swarm of babies, I whisper a fervent “Libera Nos A Malo!”
I didn’t need to read this to convince me that my kids are inherently evil, but I’m glad you did so I can show my wife. She never believes me…
Glad to be of help! We need to stick together against the drooling, crawling onslaught.
I commented on this study too. What caught my attention is the difficulty of creating some unambiguous test for infants that would actually measure what you’re trying to measure. It’s heroic to try this kind of research but really hard to get good results. Of course whatever a study shows some blog or news article will headline it without any of the qualifications and people rarely follow links to the original source.
And this is the challenge for any blogger, especially when dealing with a science piece. You want to give people an idea of what is going on in the world of science but not in such a detailed way that their eyes glaze over and they just click to the next story.
It’s not an easy thing, as you know.
Fun post! But yet another piece of scientific research that makes practical parent want to roll their eyes and say “duh…”
Thanks!!
Very interesting. Thanks for the post! Future sociopath, nice.
Yes, I’ve received quite a few compliments on the ‘Future sociopath’ line! LOL Thank you for the comment.
Didn’t anybody notice that in the Yale study the infants also preferred the neutral figure (who was presumably pretty boring) to the more exciting hinderer that crashed into the other toy? The follow-up study appears to have failed to account for that. A surprising number of things are wired into the brain. One would think numbers are “taught” but a sense of numbers up to 3 appears long before an infant can speak or be taught numeration. We build upon our innate sense of 1-2-3 to understand everything else.
In any event, this is not yet moral behaviour, this is still survival behaviour as a helpful individual is more likely to assist or share with an infant while an unhelpful one may fail to assist or take from the infant. It would be more accurate to ask whether this moral “sense” is a survival ability that is eventually built on to help form our larger moral structure.
Excellent points, Sarah! Well done. I am sure the back-and-forth between Yale and Otago will continue and perhaps others will weigh in on the research and, perhaps, conduct their own research into this subject! Thank you for your comments.
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